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Old Jan 08, 2007, 02:21 AM // 02:21   #1
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Default Typical acts of Stupidity that we all commit...that others should avoid?

So, Over the last few days, I've lost all sense of GW discipline. It must be the eggnog.
And I got to wondering, maybe, how many people, as they evolve in the game, make kinda typical goofs...not falling for scams--that's a different discussion--but just "growing pains" mistakes, or, well, like the title suggests, typical acts of stupidity.

I hope that we can all post our oopsies and maybe caution others...that they don't need to flush all the GW cash down the drain in LA trading, or that they shouldn't spend all those faction points from quests to get amber... If we post the little mistakes, maybe someone can benefit, by not making them.

So, in the spirit of honesty and education, and shame-faced discussion, here are 2 of mine:

1. I learned what a bummer the amber and jade faction rewards are. I earned quite a bit of faction doing quests in the Ferndale area, and INSTEAD of using that to unlock the next primary quest, I spent it on amber...which I turned into gold and plat.
Not a bad idea, right? Except.... I then had to PvP to earn my faction to progress the storyline. And I HATE PvP. No one to blame but myself. I spent hours in frustrating battles trying to get faction so the Zu Heltzers would let me go on to the next mission. Grr.
I learned: Save faction. Open the story first. Then take the loot later.

2. Ah, the Unidentified Gold item market. I bought 2 Unid. golds last night: It seemed like a smart deal. 50k would buy a req 9 Storm bow, and a Req 9 gothic axe. So I bought and ID'd....and found them to be...undesirable, as far as I could tell. The inherent mods were pretty bad, and so the best I can hope for is to sell each for a bit less than I paid. Sooooo lame. Served me right...I was looking for a cheap Storm Bow...
So: I learned not to drop loot on the Unid. market...at least not on high-end purchases. The chances of getting something nice are pretty slim.
Again, my own fault. Not a scam--I knew what I was buying--sort of.
So, I'm down 50k, with relatively good-looking, but undesireable, weapons.
*doh.*

Bonus, 3. This is extra. When I first played Prophecies--like, 2 days into the game, level 4, in pre-searing, I got a black dye.
Held it for a bit, asked myself, "what the hell good is this for?" and sold it to the merchant for 1 gold.
Oy. Imagine how I felt as I learned what black dye was really worth. I kicked myself.


So...who else wants to educate the masses? What common mistakes have you made that are worth avoiding?
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Old Jan 08, 2007, 02:34 AM // 02:34   #2
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i feel the pain of stupidity many times. such times inclute when i try to set up a gvg. i want one hammer an one axe warrior, what i get is 2 hh whammos who only use sword. i try to explain to them its easy to change your secondary and their skills, but they seem to be rigor- mortised on their build. why do people act like this? Are people just so closed minded that they cant help but be noobs? im not sure. you would think that after a while they would change. I used to be a sword only whammo, but i made my arrior into a multitasker, with many different secondarys and multi weapond builds. i think people just need some education. so heres what i want to educate people on:
Be flexible. especially in pvp. you will be asked by your team mates to change you build, and if you cant you will get the boot. the people who wan to gvg with me volunteered, and i expect them to use a usefull build. so theres my advice.

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Old Jan 08, 2007, 02:43 AM // 02:43   #3
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There are so many objectives and so many goals its impossible to know what to do in every situation, but as long as you are having fun then you can't kick yourself too hard. =)

I don't really have any acts of stupidity to relate, per se, but some advice - be patient. One of my biggest frustrations in the game has been selling things to get fast money, only to find out that if I had been a little more patient I could have doubled my money or more. Salvage materials, gold items, knowing when to buy armor... just be patient and you'll rarely go wrong. =)
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Old Jan 08, 2007, 02:54 AM // 02:54   #4
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if you kicked yourself for selling a black dye for 1 g you have some financial issues(10k isnt a lot), no offense
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Old Jan 08, 2007, 02:56 AM // 02:56   #5
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i feel the pain of stupidity many times. such times inclute when i try to set up a gvg. i want one hammer an one axe warrior, what i get is 2 hh whammos who only use sword. i try to explain to them its easy to change your secondary and their skills, but they seem to be rigor- mortised on their build. why do people act like this? Are people just so closed minded that they cant help but be noobs? im not sure. you would think that after a while they would change. I used to be a sword only whammo, but i made my arrior into a multitasker, with many different secondarys and multi weapond builds. i think people just need some education. so heres what i want to educate people on:
Be flexible. especially in pvp. you will be asked by your team mates to change you build, and if you cant you will get the boot. the people who wan to gvg with me volunteered, and i expect them to use a usefull build. so theres my advice.

Now what is wrong with sword users? most people i've met in TA that used swords have been better than any axe users
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Old Jan 08, 2007, 03:34 AM // 03:34   #6
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Do NOT buy unidentified items because the majority of the time they are pre tested for damage mods. This means that they can be used before they have been identified and known if they have a 15^50 dmg mod and any other hp mods or vamp etc. I know this has been said a million times before. I'm just saying it again to help some people save some money from scammers. Again, I'm not saying everyone does this but im sure we would be surprised if we knew how many that do.
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Old Jan 08, 2007, 03:34 AM // 03:34   #7
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if you kicked yourself for selling a black dye for 1 g you have some financial issues(10k isnt a lot), no offense
10k might not be a lot for you.. but a few days into the game, 10k is a lot
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Old Jan 08, 2007, 03:37 AM // 03:37   #8
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if you kicked yourself for selling a black dye for 1 g you have some financial issues(10k isnt a lot), no offense
http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=condescending

I think it has little to do with finance and has more to do with the feeling someone ripped you. Even if it had to do with that being alot of gold to someone, wouldn't if that meant nothing to someone because they were so super l337 because they play gw all day long be more of a degrading issue?

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Old Jan 08, 2007, 03:39 AM // 03:39   #9
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There is nothing wrong with sword warriors he meant sword warriors who used Healing Hands and other useless monk skills on a warrior. As far as that goes maybe he wanted axe for high damage spikes and hammer for KD's where as sword warriors provide more constant pressure damage.

Back on topic. Hmmm I honestly sold many worth while things to the merchant before trying to get rid of junk fast and learned put the items I use in my bags so I know not to sell them. A little bit of advice I would say is pick up all your drops and ID them as ID drops tend to fetch you a little more gold then none ID'd ones. In such areas like FOW, UW, and elite canthan missions go back when your party is done and pick up your teammates drops. I tend to make on average about 3k a FOW or UW run going back and picking up old drops. It may not sound like much but 3k adds up slowly. Also dont complain about having no money for weapons and when I join you for a quest of a mission and you dont pick up your drops it's a no brainer why you have no money then.
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Old Jan 08, 2007, 04:03 AM // 04:03   #10
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When my warrior was young, I customized a req8 chaos axe received from guildmate. Everytime I look at it I shake my head.

Never, never customize a weapon, unless it is crap.
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Old Jan 08, 2007, 04:15 AM // 04:15   #11
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When my warrior was young, I customized a req8 chaos axe received from guildmate. Everytime I look at it I shake my head.

Never, never customize a weapon, unless it is crap.
I customize everything I plan on using.

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Old Jan 08, 2007, 04:21 AM // 04:21   #12
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I was in FoW I opened a chest and I got a max damage req. 9 15^50 Sephis axe and I sold to someone in ascalon for 5 plats. GG.
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Old Jan 08, 2007, 04:22 AM // 04:22   #13
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I preordered NF in a store instead of getting the PvP edition.

Would have saved me ~100 hours of grind. -.-
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Old Jan 08, 2007, 04:22 AM // 04:22   #14
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i customised my forgotten sword and don't regret it
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Old Jan 08, 2007, 04:55 AM // 04:55   #15
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I was in FoW I opened a chest and I got a max damage req. 9 15^50 Sephis axe and I sold to someone in ascalon for 5 plats. GG.
gg indeed
i will never forget the req 8 15% always long sword with no negative effects i sold for 70k a few months after gw release
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Old Jan 08, 2007, 05:24 AM // 05:24   #16
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played pve. .
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Old Jan 08, 2007, 06:51 AM // 06:51   #17
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not as bad as tomahawked, but about a year ago i got a req 11 15^50 chaos axe and sold it to a guy for 30k what a deal!

found the guy in another district selling for 90k
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Old Jan 08, 2007, 07:02 AM // 07:02   #18
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Aw, we could advise the newfolks or we could let em learn....

Ok i'll be nice.

When you even start to see a tiny bit of lag, don't go anywhere near that merchant. Or learn very early on to turn off bags which contain your alternative weapons.

Don't chat about random stuff on vent while deleting the pvp character you just made. An ex-guildie did this and deleted the wrong necromancer, bye bye Bortak's set.... character deletion should be a moment of ultimate concentration.
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Old Jan 08, 2007, 07:15 AM // 07:15   #19
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I deleted all my characters and started over awhile back

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if you kicked yourself for selling a black dye for 1 g you have some financial issues(10k isnt a lot), no offense
Off Topic--->I think 10k is alot man ive had like 5k for the past 3 months, where you be gettin all this money
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Old Jan 08, 2007, 07:36 AM // 07:36   #20
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When my warrior was young, I customized a req8 chaos axe received from guildmate. Everytime I look at it I shake my head.

Never, never customize a weapon, unless it is crap.
If you were planning to sell that axe, then yeah, it falls in the category of the topic; but its bad advice.

Customize all weapons you use.
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